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> <channel><title>Comments on: Why PPC is about to skyrocket &#8211; and then CRASH</title> <atom:link href="http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/</link> <description>Social Media Strategy Blog Social Media Consulting</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:15:02 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: James</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-436</link> <dc:creator>James</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:59:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-436</guid> <description>@jason I would tell you more about the targeting technology but then, well you know, I would have to ...DM me at @jhipkin with a phone number and I will tell you what I can.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jason I would tell you more about the targeting technology but then, well you know, I would have to &#8230;</p><p>DM me at @jhipkin with a phone number and I will tell you what I can.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Are We In a Social Media Recession? : Social Media Innovation</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-420</link> <dc:creator>Are We In a Social Media Recession? : Social Media Innovation</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:12:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-420</guid> <description>[...] more recently.  Even if ad sales did in fact show consistent growth over the entire quarter, some have argued convincingly that this is exactly the trend we should be expecting &#8212; right before a PPC advertising [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more recently.  Even if ad sales did in fact show consistent growth over the entire quarter, some have argued convincingly that this is exactly the trend we should be expecting &#8212; right before a PPC advertising [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jamie Scheu</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-13917</link> <dc:creator>Jamie Scheu</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:49:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-13917</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Convince and Convert predicts PPC is going to go through an accelerated bubble and then crash in the next 4 months http://cli.gs/eS171u&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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class="topsy_trackback_content">Convince and Convert predicts PPC is going to go through an accelerated bubble and then crash in the next 4 months <a
href="http://cli.gs/eS171u" rel="nofollow">http://cli.gs/eS171u</a></span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason Baer</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-398</link> <dc:creator>Jason Baer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:38:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-398</guid> <description>Soniac --Really good point about display driving search. I wrote a post here about online media (mostly search) fulfilling demand, but traditional media creating it.You&#039;re spot on.Thanks for the comment,
j</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soniac &#8211;</p><p>Really good point about display driving search. I wrote a post here about online media (mostly search) fulfilling demand, but traditional media creating it.</p><p>You&#8217;re spot on.</p><p>Thanks for the comment,<br
/> j</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Soniac</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-397</link> <dc:creator>Soniac</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:32:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-397</guid> <description>Great post Jason!I&#039;m in agreement with James on the shift back to display but I think I&#039;m more optimistic on the future of PPC.I think advertisers have really started to invest in better tools for analytics (and will continue to do so).  These tools have revealed reams of data in favour of branding online and the &quot;latency effect&quot; (view thrus).  Lengthening campaign analysis by even just one month after the media activity has stopped, shows delayed effects from display and significantly drives down the overall CPA.Display media has been getting a bad rap since day one when in reality, just like every other medium, generating brand awareness is stage one to entering consumers into the purchase cycle and I wish advertisers would take a deep breath and balance their spending accordingly.A display revival would be good news for search as in some cases, display media actually drives keyword searches (lifting inventory levels).Thanks again for the great post!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Jason!</p><p>I&#8217;m in agreement with James on the shift back to display but I think I&#8217;m more optimistic on the future of PPC.</p><p>I think advertisers have really started to invest in better tools for analytics (and will continue to do so).  These tools have revealed reams of data in favour of branding online and the &#8220;latency effect&#8221; (view thrus).  Lengthening campaign analysis by even just one month after the media activity has stopped, shows delayed effects from display and significantly drives down the overall CPA.</p><p>Display media has been getting a bad rap since day one when in reality, just like every other medium, generating brand awareness is stage one to entering consumers into the purchase cycle and I wish advertisers would take a deep breath and balance their spending accordingly.</p><p>A display revival would be good news for search as in some cases, display media actually drives keyword searches (lifting inventory levels).</p><p>Thanks again for the great post!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason Baer</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link> <dc:creator>Jason Baer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:31:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-395</guid> <description>James. Really interesting on the targeting for display. Tell me more!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James. Really interesting on the targeting for display. Tell me more!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: James</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-394</link> <dc:creator>James</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:36:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-394</guid> <description>What we are observing is the normal ebb and flow you would expect for a new product and for most advertisers Search is still relatively new.  There will be Johnny-Come-Lately advertisers who will dive in and bid up the first position to unprofitable levels.  Your emphasis on analysis and optimization, both of the SEM bid strategy and landing pages, is the way to go.  The first position is rarely the best position in terms of ROI.  Stay focused on analytics and optimization and the serious search marketer will be OK.Now here comes the controversial part of this comment.  I believe that keyword inflation combined with improved targeting will fuel the shift of ad dollars to display.  We, for example, are testing new targeting technology that is bringing our CPL from banners into line with Search.  And display bring other benefits to the advertiser: a display campaign impacts awareness, brand equity and, if Search is also part of the mix, it can improve the efficiency of Search.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we are observing is the normal ebb and flow you would expect for a new product and for most advertisers Search is still relatively new.  There will be Johnny-Come-Lately advertisers who will dive in and bid up the first position to unprofitable levels.  Your emphasis on analysis and optimization, both of the SEM bid strategy and landing pages, is the way to go.  The first position is rarely the best position in terms of ROI.  Stay focused on analytics and optimization and the serious search marketer will be OK.</p><p>Now here comes the controversial part of this comment.  I believe that keyword inflation combined with improved targeting will fuel the shift of ad dollars to display.  We, for example, are testing new targeting technology that is bringing our CPL from banners into line with Search.  And display bring other benefits to the advertiser: a display campaign impacts awareness, brand equity and, if Search is also part of the mix, it can improve the efficiency of Search.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shailesh Ghimire</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link> <dc:creator>Shailesh Ghimire</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:08:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-393</guid> <description>Jason,Very good analysis. The bidding is certainly higher today from what I can tell. You can still drive great ROI - and like you said so much of the conversion is going to depend on the landing page and other variables. PPC can get you traffic, but once it comes the onus is on you to increase your chances of conversion.With limited budgets and uncertain times Feb 1st is indeed going to a day of reckoning! We&#039;ll see.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p><p>Very good analysis. The bidding is certainly higher today from what I can tell. You can still drive great ROI &#8211; and like you said so much of the conversion is going to depend on the landing page and other variables. PPC can get you traffic, but once it comes the onus is on you to increase your chances of conversion.</p><p>With limited budgets and uncertain times Feb 1st is indeed going to a day of reckoning! We&#8217;ll see.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason Baer</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-392</link> <dc:creator>Jason Baer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:33:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-392</guid> <description>James -Wow. Perhaps the meatiest comment I&#039;ve ever received here at C&amp;C. Many thanks. I completely agree about the death of the long tail. Basically, anything that works online gets beaten to death by the second and third waves of adoption, and then we have to go find something else that works. It&#039;s a vicious cycle.Interesting angle on moving PPC into formerly CPM areas. I agree there&#039;s potential, but the problem I have with it is values impressions at zero. Impressions matter, and if create a revenue model that doesn&#039;t require payment for them, digital marketing will always be led by direct response thinking. If we&#039;re really going to expand this business, it needs to be at the expense of TV, not at the expense of direct mail. That&#039;s why I&#039;m encouraged by the research and findings coming out with regard to engagement and brand lift with rich media and online video. Given that many people will NEVER click, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a payment model that&#039;s sustainable at scale, even given it&#039;s spectacular efficiencies.Thanks again for the comment.Cheers,
j</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James -</p><p>Wow. Perhaps the meatiest comment I&#8217;ve ever received here at C&#038;C. Many thanks. I completely agree about the death of the long tail. Basically, anything that works online gets beaten to death by the second and third waves of adoption, and then we have to go find something else that works. It&#8217;s a vicious cycle.</p><p>Interesting angle on moving PPC into formerly CPM areas. I agree there&#8217;s potential, but the problem I have with it is values impressions at zero. Impressions matter, and if create a revenue model that doesn&#8217;t require payment for them, digital marketing will always be led by direct response thinking. If we&#8217;re really going to expand this business, it needs to be at the expense of TV, not at the expense of direct mail. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m encouraged by the research and findings coming out with regard to engagement and brand lift with rich media and online video. Given that many people will NEVER click, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a payment model that&#8217;s sustainable at scale, even given it&#8217;s spectacular efficiencies.</p><p>Thanks again for the comment.</p><p>Cheers,<br
/> j</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason Baer</title><link>http://www.convinceandconvert.com/search-marketing-advice/why-ppc-is-about-to-skyrocket-and-then-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-391</link> <dc:creator>Jason Baer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:29:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.convinceandconvert.com/?p=232#comment-391</guid> <description>kat -Thanks much for the comment. I should have hat tipped you as well, because everyone knows YOU are the real brains at Doe Anderson!Cheers,
j</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kat -</p><p>Thanks much for the comment. I should have hat tipped you as well, because everyone knows YOU are the real brains at Doe Anderson!</p><p>Cheers,<br
/> j</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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