The Chicken and the Egg Social Media Conundrum

There are many ways social media differs from traditional marketing. It’s approachable and human. It’s a two-way dialog, rather than unilateral declarations. It treats the customer as a teammate, rather than a target.

But there’s another big difference. In social media, the audience comes after the message, not Smokin Chicken on Flickr Photo Sharing 300x220 The Chicken and the Egg Social Media Conundrumbefore.

Remember that when you buy a print ad, or billboard, or print a direct mail piece, or buy radio time, or banner ads, or bus benches, or hire a skywriter, you are doing so because you have some idea of how many people will see your message, and that they are theoretically folks that give a whit about your company.

Social media is the exact opposite.

Hand-to-hand Combat for Eyeballs

You decide you want to join the conversation on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, your blog or wherever, and you start with an audience of zero. The audience accrues based on the quality and authenticity of your message.

Thus, there are really no shortcuts in social media. Sure, you can produce more content, or tweet about it with greater frequency, or be smarter about SEO, or craftily link your social outposts together. But all of those just make a good social media program better – they don’t guarantee you an audience.

And the more I think about it, the more I believe that’s why some marketers have trouble wrestling and conceptualizing social media. Our attention and loyalties are no longer for sale the way they historically have been. In social media, you can’t open up your Arbitron report and figure out which stations will reach your target audience, and write your check and be on drive time in a few days, distributing your message widely.

As Brian Solis puts it so well, we now earn the relationships, trust, and reputation we deserve.

There’s a lot of people out there trying to figure out how to game the system. How to find the secret social media loophole that enables you to grow an audience like a chia pet without having to work at it. I don’t think they’ll find their magic beans, and I hope you don’t let them keep trying.

Yes, it’s hard. Nobody ever promised social media was easy, just that it was fun, and effective. But, unlike every other marketing tool for the past 200 years, it’s a meritocracy, and that benefits us all.

I just started noodling this concept of audience coming after the message the other day. Will you help me think it through in the comments?

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Great post Jay. I'm constantly cautioning the companies that I work with that social media has to change the way you approach contact with the client.
I tell that that to be successful they need to put in a lot of time, effort and energy to make it work for them. It won't be over night, but the long term gains with be worth the work..

Keep writing, and I'll keep reading.

Thanks

Now I HAVE to keep writing. Thanks very much for the comment. Glad you
liked that one.

Social media marketing simply creates it's own form of the mix.

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Hi Jay,

I have the rare privilege of being on a somewhat similar wavelength to you. The post that I wrote last night about people who literally plagiarize themselves across various media and channels is one possible result of forgetting what Social Media is all about. Why?

Let's say I have been getting a good response to my blog. I've been working on a series and people have really been getting into the whole concept. I think, "Hmm, I want to capitalize on this, but how?" I decide to weave my blog posts together into a talk, or a webinar, or a book. Very little editing - same essential content that people have already read and responded to.

Because I have been building my community on my blog, I naturally decided to promote my new (fill in the blank) on my blog. People have come to trust me and they want to support me because I've built relationships with them, so it seems easy for them to take the leap and buy my book or come pay to watch me speak.

But what will they find when the hear me speak or when they open my book for the first time? They will see the same content they have already read. Maybe even stuff they've already commented on.

You are right that technically, you can't take short cuts in media. But people are trying and they might not even realize it. They are gaming the system that perhaps they helped to create.

I find this very troublesome, and per your post, I think it might be happening because even after the time-consuming effort of building a community, people still forget that that "audience" still consists of individual people. The chicken has forgotten the egg it came from. Or...well, any other way you want to say it :)

Great post. Thank you.

The cigarette does the smoking. The chicken is just the sucker. Jay's deeper message is that if you think social media is a snap, you're just a sucker.

Great post Jay. However, doesn't the tone of the message come after researching the target audience? I think it depends a lot on the social media outlet. For example, if you are participating in a forum, then the target audience is already there, all you're doing is engaging them.
I do agree that there are no shortcuts. Often, I have tried to follow the work of people who try to game the system and end up working twice as hard. It took time but now I know that quality trumps quantity any day.

By the way, wanted your thoughts on something. Do you think Google's instant search will change the SEO focus to using more short tailed keywords?

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Well, we all have our own Twitter accounts. Setting up Chirrup for us would require talking to the Weblogs overlords. We only control editorial decisions and content, not the design of the site.

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What comes first in social media...an audience or the message? http://ow.ly/15kuk via Convince & Convert

The message is indeed the important component of building an online audience. I like your analogy to the chicken and the egg. We need to understand the difference between output and an outcome as well. Pushing out content is great but pushing out content that engages and captures an audience is even better. Nice post Jay!

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Content first, then audience. Why there are no social media shortcuts. http://om.ly/espn [R: Another home-run post by @jaybaer.]

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A thought-provoking post, Jay but I'm constantly confounded when SM marketing is described as a meritocracy as if this is a special designation.

Pre-social media, you had to earn your right to the consumer heart and wallet every day, too. If you didn't provide a quality product and excellent service, you would fail. In the event that you did have a failure, if your company handled a problem with prompt, honest communications, you would be rewarded.

The social web offers an exciting new way to connect, but the marketing fundamentals are truly still the same. A free market economy has always been a meritocracy and always will be.

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Such a great way of look at social media Jay - as always you seem to have struck a core with your readers, and 'hit the nail on the head'. What I think is also interesting is the commitment Social Media demands from Companies. That is what seems to make them start 'sweating'! SM is not a one off campaign, its not a poster you put up for cars to see, or people to read at a bus shelter - its for life (not just Christmas) BUT the pay off is great - your fans and followers become your greatest asset - because they are JUST THAT - FANS and FOLLOWERS. they ticked that box for a reason - they love you. they want to hear more. but you are right - you need to work hard to get them in the first place - but remember that once you have the 'chicken' you cant ignore it and let it die :)
Thanks again - great post. love your work.
Lucinda

You bet Steve. Not to mention the fact that real-time search powered by social media makes "ready" less than a sure thing - much less aim.

It's a crazy paradox. Social media isn't cheap or fast, but yet that's STILL the conventional wisdom for most people diving in for the first time. Why?

Thank you Staci. That's very nice to hear.

Thanks John. I appreciate the comment. Go to the right hand side of the blog. There's a tab there that says "tags". There's a tag for case studies, and there's a bunch of interesting company stories in there.

That's a pretty darn cool focus. Why am I not focused on concert photography? Damn, that sounds fun.

Hey Rich. Thanks for the comment. Great to have you here. Of course agencies understand target audiences. That's not my point. The premise is that your could pay to distribute your message (in a learned fashion). In social media, you can't really jump the line.

Chicken no make good house pet.

Definitely. Content isn't kind. Optimized content + community is king.

This guy Jay Baer got me to thinkin'...RT > @ndefalco The Chicken and the Egg Social Media Conundrum http://bit.ly/aVH7Eg.

Great post, Jay. You're helping us look at marketing differently, which we should. There's marketing pre-social media, and marketing in social media real time. The concepts are evolving. Old days: define target audience, ready, aim, fire. Todays: sharpen the message, stand in the community "square," and deliver. We used to disparage "ready, fire, aim." In this social media milieu, it's...different.

Really good piece -- RT @jaybaer The Chicken and the Egg Social Media Conundrum http://bit.ly/cGf8KA

Nice post Jay! Very true. I work with many clients that I just can't get through to, that this is a process. People approach social media as a quick fix because they hear all the buzz but you are so right, you start with an audience of zero. After a month you may see a little traffic to your website and a few retweets. After another month you will see a little more. Too many people TRY social media as a quick fix. "I am going to do the social media for a WHOLE month and then I will roll around in all the money I have made". It doesn't work like that and they leave their campaigns to whither and the leave disappointed.

Thank you again for sharing your ideas with all of us!

RT @nitinkohlivk: RT @BrendaSomich: The Chicken and the Egg Social Media Conundrum. Great post by @jaybaer http://ow.ly/13qbT (RT @drbret)

Awesome, Jay!! Could not agree with you more.

Keep sharing!!

Cheers,
Prince

I love your ideas and writing style. I will definitely be coming back for more. Keep up the great work!

I'd like to hear your take on what you think marketers could do to make the most out of social media. For instance, you listed several things that wouldn't guarantee an audience - what do you think WOULD guarantee one? Maybe some case studies/analysis of small companies that have truly exploded onto the scene through marketing?

As a new blogger that takes my blog activity very seriously, I am that person (who was) writing for the audience of zero. (But) as I continue to do the right things like you mentioned I am now seeing more and more traffic. You're exactly right - it's hard work bus as I have found my voice in the mix of social media in my market (photography - more specific concert photography)it is fun and has been rewarding. The principle of patience is where the payoff comes.

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As a consumer that knows better, I make a choice to not spend my money with companies that pretend to practice social media. I NEVER respond to a Facebook ad or fan page. But I will go out of my way to spend money with a local merchant that blogs and tweets, just as a matter of principle.

That's encouraging, if the renown lasts longer too!

Hi Jay,

I have to disagree with the concept that agencies might simply buy space, convey their wit, and play the numbers. While it depended on the agency, we spent a significant amount of time understanding the customer, demographics, and psychographics before ever writing any message. So, to that end, it was exactly like social media. The audience comes first.

I might agree that many advertising agencies have drifted away from that model, primarily because of guerrilla marketing, photoshop possibilities, and direct response; but if you look back at the real talents in the 1950s and 1960s, you'll find that agencies didn't see masses as much as they saw their own wives.

Anyway, I like the audience first concept. But it has been around a long time, only somewhat forgotten along the way. I'm thrilled you bring it up, however, because it is where advertising, social media, etc. needs to return to be effective.

All my best,
Rich

Absolutely, Cheryl. Thank you for the reminder. I'm certainly not an advocate of audience building for audience sake. See this post "Are You Cherishing the Wrong Trophy?" about counting fans. It's about engagement, not collection.

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It's still the same, it just takes 3 years to get your 15 minutes. ;)

You are dead-on. Your brand, your content, the trust people have in you IS your product in social media. Helpfulness is the coin of the social media realm.

Absolutely. Although if you're valuing the time, I'm really not sure that social media is any less expensive than traditional, at the end of the day.

Yes, Angelique. Good point. I think more from the cold start standpoint, since that was my experience here with Convince & Convert, but I'm just leaving a conference where I was speaking about email + social, and using the strength of one to jumpstart the other is definitely a best practice.

I'm not sure that individual consumer voices are as loud as marketers', but in aggregate they certainly are. Well said.

What scares me is that moving interruption marketing to social media is actually working in some cases. I hope we don't end up deciding that it's all about the media, and not about the social.

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