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How Higher Ed Can Boost Social Media Performance with Empathy and Design

Posted Under: Social Pros Podcast
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Daniel Lemin

Convince & Convert

Hannah Tooker


Leanna Pham

Convince & Convert
About Social Pros Podcast:

Social Pros is one of the longest-running marketing podcasts in existence (10 YEARS and counting), and was recently recognized as the #1 Audio/Podcast Series by the Content Marketing Awards.

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Listeners get inside stories and behind-the-scenes secrets about how teams at companies like Google, Reddit, Glossier, Zillow, Lyft, Marvel, and dozens more, staff, operate, and measure their social media programs.  With 600+ episodes, the Social Pros Podcast brings the humanity of social media to the forefront, while providing incredibly useful marketing strategies that listeners can immediately implement.

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Robert John Thompson, Director of Digital Marketing at Joseph M. Katz Graduate School of Business, University of Pittsburgh, joins the Social Pros podcast to explain how social media marketers can enhance their operations through higher education and empathy.

Back to the Classroom

The marketing landscape is constantly changing. This means it’s increasingly important that marketing professionals have knowledge across multiple areas so their teams can grow and evolve.

In this episode of Social Pros, Robert John Thompson, Director of Digital Marketing at Joseph M. Katz Graduate School of Business, University of Pittsburgh, shares the ins and outs of his journey from graphic design to marketing, his current role, how marketers can move with the times and so much more.

Get ready to note down some top tips from RJ on audiences, upskilling and marketing with empathy. Plus, he shares why he thinks marketers should return to the classroom.

In This Episode:

  • 4:20 – RJ explains his job role and background
  • 7:27 – Why RJ pivoted from graphic design to marketing
  • 12:37 – How marketers can work with designers and create better briefs
  • 15:35 – RJ explains his preference for in-house teams over agencies
  • 21:56 – How the last two years have impacted marketing strategies
  • 23:41 – RJ’s student-centered strategy
  • 30:37 – How RJ made a business case for embracing social media
  • 38:42 – RJ shares his top tip for those who want to become a social pro

Quotes From This Episode:

“Get to know your audience and be a part of the community you’re serving.” Click To Tweet

“You can climb the ladder, but as you do that, the jobs narrow. Take all of those multi-skills that you’ve developed. And don’t be afraid to apply them in different areas.” @rjtpitt

“I really believe in this idea of the idealized self-concept that every single human on the planet has this idealized version of themselves to work towards. We’re all trying to capture it.” @rjtpitt


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